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    Post  Geezer on Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:40 pm

    West Ham United's proposed move to Stratford will not happen until 2015 at the very earliest, it has been revealed today.

    At a press conference this morning the London Legacy Development Corporation announced that the Olympic Stadium will not re-open before August 2015 - with a further year's delay possible.

    That announcement all but ends West Ham's hopes of moving to the stadium in time for the start of the 2014/15 season, as previously planned.

    Elsewhere this morning, an advisor for London mayor Boris Johnson revealed that recent talks with the National Football League - the organisation that oversees 'gridiron' in the United States - were not used to discuss the possibility of the league taking over the Olympic Stadium.

    Instead, it has been claimed that the meetings were used to obtain tips on how best to utilise the stadium. Dennis Hone, the new LLDC chief executive confirmed that there had been no bid from the NFL with regards to using the arena.

    The area surrounding the stadium, to be named the Queen Elizabeth Olympic Park, is due to open to the public in July 2013.

    The North Park, which includes parklands and a 7,500-capacity 'multi-arena' will be the first area open to the public with the rest of the site - namely the South Plaza - due to open the following Easter (April 2014).


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    Post  Campo on Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:42 pm

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    Post  Jiggs on Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:25 am

    Can we fcuk this stoopid idea off now?

    Biggest bunch or arse since SD first said biggest bunch of arse



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    Post  Suzanne Claret on Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:03 am

    Tell 'em to shove it!!

    In fact at the Supporters Advisory Group meeting next Monday I'll tell 'em to shove it nope
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    Post  Jiggs on Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:54 pm

    Go Suze! Viking


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    Post  manurewa hammer on Sat Nov 10, 2012 3:21 pm

    This whole saga is an absolute joke! :angry:
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    Post  Sir Ian on Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:23 pm

    i dont want to say i told ya so but I TOLD YA SO!! we was never gonna get the stadium, far to many corrupt people involved who hate football and have their trotters in lots of brown envelopes. imho
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    Post  Blakey on Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:50 am

    From Sky Newsdesk on Twitter

    Three people charged in connection with spying allegations linked to negotiations over the future of London 2012 Olympic Stadium
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    Post  Campo on Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:32 am

    Blakey wrote:From Sky Newsdesk on Twitter

    Three people charged in connection with spying allegations linked to negotiations over the future of London 2012 Olympic Stadium

    could be why its all been delayed
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    Post  Campo on Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:55 pm

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    West Ham United delivered a final "take it or leave it" offer to the London Legacy Development Corporation on Friday as the long running saga over the future of the Olympic Stadium enters its end game.

    The LLDC insists that it is determined to come to a decision by the end of the year and West Ham's latest offer, understood to improve substantially on the £10m upfront contribution to the £160m conversion costs previously tabled, is designed to force the issue.

    The club are likely to argue that their best and final offer represents the only chance of guaranteeing a sustainable future for the stadium without ongoing public subsidy.

    West Ham have repeatedly indicated they remain committed to moving to Stratford but "not at any price". Meanwhile, the LLDC chief executive Dennis Hone has said he wants to reach a solution with the east London club but "not at any cost to the taxpayer". The standoff has created ongoing uncertainty over the fate of the £468m stadium.

    In addition to an estimated £2.5m a year in rent, index-linked to RPI, sources close to the negotiations have said that West Ham believe their offer is worth an additional £6m a year to the LLDC given a commensurate uplift in stadium naming rights and catering income. But the LLDC believes those figures are too optimistic and it would also have to meet matchday costs estimated at £2.5m or more a year and help fund the conversion costs.

    If West Ham are chosen, Newham Council may also increase the £40m it has offered to inject as a loan to help fund the conversion w**k.

    However, others on the LLDC board argue that it now makes sense to walk away from Premier League football, which necessitates spending at least £160m on a new roof and retractable seats, and instead invest £30m in getting ready to open as soon as possible as a multi-use venue without football.

    Hone has already admitted that if West Ham are chosen as tenants, then it could be August 2016 before they play their first competitive match in the stadium.

    Earlier this week, the UK Athletics chairman Ed Warner urged the LLDC and its chairman, the London Mayor Boris Johnson, to reach a decision. He warned that the saga was becoming a "Stratford farce" amid fears that the goodwill generated by the Games would ebb away the longer the process dragged on.

    The Guardian revealed last month that the long running saga would be delayed yet again. An earlier decision to hand West Ham the lease to the stadium had to be abandoned in the wake of legal challenges from losing bidders Spurs and Leyton Orient, and an anonymous complainant to the European Commission.

    The current process – which also attracted bids from Orient, a football business college and a consortium hoping to stage Formula One races – has been extended several times, causing the reopening date to slip to 2015 or even 2016.
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    Post  Admin on Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:06 pm

    West Ham are set to be named as the preferred bidder for the Olympic Stadium next week amid fresh efforts to plug the gap in funding required to convert the venue into a football ground.
    The London Legacy Development Corporation (LLDC) board is meeting on December 5 and sources close to the process say it is expected that the football club will be given a major step towards become the stadium's tenants.

    Preferred bidder status will not involve the signing of any contracts but will put West Ham in the driving seat to securing a new home under a 99-year lease.

    The funding gap for converting the stadium into a football ground with retractable seating over the running track is understood to now be down to around £20million after West Ham and Newham Council agreed to put in more money.

    There is now set to be further efforts to secure the final outstanding cash with approaches to the Treasury and the London mayor's office.

    Even so, the total cost will be at least £160million and one lingering fear is that those costs could spiral in the future, with a key element of future negotiations being who would underwrite any such increases.

    The Hammers are one of four bidders hoping to be chosen as the new anchor tenant for the Olympic Stadium, which has cost £486million so far and has been vacant since hosting the closing ceremony to the Paralympics at the start of September.

    The Barclays Premier League club are competing against npower League One side Leyton Orient, a football business college and a group keen to bring Formula One racing to the Olympic Park.

    West Ham's latest offer is believed to be a £15m upfront contribution, a £5million improvement on the original offer, as well as rent of £2.5m a year and £6m-a-year income for the LLDC from stadium naming rights and catering revenues.

    The LLDC confirmed this month that the stadium will not re-open until 2015 at the earliest and possibly the summer of 2016 - which would be two years later than expected.

    The delay was branded "a farce" by UK Athletics chairman Ed Warner - his organisation had planned events such as Diamond League meetings, trials and school competitions from 2014 and is hosting the 2017 world championships.

    Warner said two weeks ago: "All of the legacy use was scheduled to start in two years' time and now it might be four years' time which strikes me as ludicrous and to be a paralysis of decision-making which I hope the mayor [Boris Johnson] is going to cut through.

    "I wouldn't say this is a Whitehall farce but this is fast becoming a Stratford farce."
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    Post  mottinghammer on Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:59 pm

    Why are we having to fund the changes? The stadium will not be owned by West Ham, should be down to the owners to sort out their mess. If they do't give it to us next week, GaS should tell them topoke it and see how they get on with hernia as the tennent and 3000 fans going a week.

    Complete thing angry2
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    Post  Suzanne Claret on Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:47 pm

    Get real with the Olympic Stadium... it's West Ham or a white elephant

    The bad news is, it is a link for the Daily Mail so be warned, if you don't want to visit their site. There is also a small piece about Dave Sexton on the same link.

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    Post  Jiggs on Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:03 am

    The Dave's and Karen have fought this for too long, no hopers have been allowed to challenge them. We were made to re-apply at further cost, now they let it known that there will be extra costs! They've given it to us once and taken it back ffs! Already too many bad omens....

    If West Ham get this tenancy, the club live to regret it, mark my words.


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    Post  Admin on Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:36 am

    You been looking in your glass ball again
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    Post  mottinghammer on Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:59 am

    Suzanne Claret wrote:Get real with the Olympic Stadium... it's West Ham or a white elephant

    The bad news is, it is a link for the Daily Mail so be warned, if you don't want to visit their site. There is also a small piece about Dave Sexton on the same link.

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    I know its in the daily hate, but it makes a lot of sense. So it wont happen!!!

    If we dont get it next week, let Boris have his white Elephant and fupp him
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    Post  alfiehammer on Sun Dec 02, 2012 2:19 am

    is that a rare if not exceptional thing of a pro west ham article in the daily mail? jawdrop
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    Post  Campo on Sun Dec 02, 2012 2:40 am

    the writer is a massive hammers fan thats why
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    Post  Campo on Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:41 am

    few sites on the webnet thing are saying it will be announced tomorrow and that we have it
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    Post  Admin on Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:13 pm

    Just found this , they are aving a finguck larf
    West Ham's owners must agree to share the profits from any future sale of the Premier League club if they are to be granted the right to move into the Olympic Stadium, the BBC has learned.
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    Post  Admin on Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:24 pm

    Just found this , nicked of course but thought some of the figures mention was interesting

    The selection of West Ham as preferred bidders for the Olympic Stadium should trigger bubbles on Green Street and relief in City Hall and Westminster.

    But there is another constituency who should view the decision not with delight, but deep trepidation. For West Ham’s competitors at either end of the Premier League, the move to what will be the second-largest stadium in the league is bad news.

    By securing a 60,000-seat stadium West Ham will, at a stroke, move to a new competitive level. The financial benefits of a new ground in the iconic surrounds of the Olympic Park, close to the corporate fortunes of Canary Wharf with excellent transport links, should be vast.

    Exploited well, the stadium should guarantee West Ham an annual contest for European football. Instead of yo-yoing between the top two divisions they will be ready to outstrip Aston Villa, Newcastle and Everton, position themselves to take on Tottenham and Liverpool on equal terms, and dream of taking on Arsenal.

    Were the Davids, Gold and Sullivan, willing to sell, things could get even better. As Manchester City found to their benefit, a publicly-funded stadium with manageable rent makes a club hugely attractive to foreign investors.

    The next time an oligarch or sheikh casts their eye England’s football portfolio in search of a trophy investment West Ham, with a long-lease to a new stadium and a heritage ripe for exploitation, will look very attractive. This is why government is keen to ensure the public share in any profits from a quick sale.

    West Ham will say with justification that this is not just a good deal for them. Their commitment to the stadium, despite the shambolic process, offers it a viable future, and will give the park the heartbeat it needs.

    Without the club the stadium might require subsidy and have a less certain future, but that does not mean it is anything other than a great deal for West Ham.

    No wonder Daniel Levy, looking on from White Hart Lane, is nervous. There are many reasons he challenged the decision to select West Ham over Tottenham in the original bid, not least genuine concerns over the fairness of the process. But he is no fool. His stadium is already dwarfed by the Emirates, and now he faces a new rival with an equally imposing stadium just a few miles east.

    Money, as Ellis Short and Randy Lerner will testify, does not guarantee you success, but it makes life easier. And for West Ham the stadium should guarantee an increase in income well beyond their grasp at Upton Park.

    Even confined to a 35,000-seat capacity stadium, the club are among the 20010-11 league’s higher earners. In their last full season in the Premier League, finishing last, West Ham’s turnover was £81 million. It was the ninth highest in the league and just £7 million short of what City earned in the year before the Abu Dhabi takeover.

    More than half of that income, £46 million, came from broadcast revenue, with Upton Park contributing just £18 million and commercial revenue £11 million. West Ham will expect to transform those last two figures once they move.

    There may be a challenge initially in filling 60,000 seats, but with an average home gate of 34,449 this season they have a base comparable with Tottenham. Tickets may have to be priced competitively, but the latent appeal of the Premier League will draw in plenty of neutrals to fill the gaps.

    Visiting the Olympic Stadium and park will make it a significant attraction for away supporters.

    The corporate opportunity is also huge, with the stadium likely to have 5,000 hospitality seats. With the financial hub of Canary Wharf a few stops away on the Jubilee Line, there is a huge market for West Ham to call on.

    West Ham may not challenge the £95 million of match-day revenue generated each year by the Emirates, but they will surely get close to the £43 million Spurs yield from White Hart Lane.

    All of this may make West Ham feel like a different club in five years. The unique atmosphere of the Boleyn Ground, East End home of England’s World Cup winners, may not survive the move.

    But West Ham are not just moving to Stratford, they are heading towards the top six, and that might be compensation enough.
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    Post  mottinghammer on Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:24 pm

    Soooo just so I understand..........

    Its owned by someone else, who want us to pay for the changes to make it suitable for use?

    They also want the revenue from the naming rights?

    And the money from food drink ect?

    oh plus rent

    and now if we are sold they also want a slice of that as well?

    Soooo what are the real benifits to West Ham United FC and its fans?

    Other than our owners will make a killing selling the Bolyn ground

    Dosent sound like a good deal to me.
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    Post  Campo on Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:46 pm

    I have seen it somewhere on one site (wish i had kept the link now) that even after all our payouts we would have an increased revenue of around £30-40M a year, if these figures are true the whole of the debt we have could be wiped out in 2 years.
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    Post  Admin on Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:37 pm

    Looks like its ours

    Hammers fans will be sitting pretty under Boris Johnson plan

    29 November 2012

    West Ham fans will be closer to the pitch than first feared if, as is expected, the east London club are confirmed as the anchor tenants for the Olympic Stadium.

    London Mayor Boris Johnson’s priority when he returns from India this week is to chair the London Legacy Development Corporation board’s meeting next Wednesday, which is likely to decide that West Ham will move to their new Stratford base, probably at the start of the 2016-17 season.

    West Ham supporters’ big concern about moving from their compact Upton Park ground to Stratford was that they would be too far away from the action.

    Johnson’s plan, though, would see fully retractable seats, similar to those at the Stade de France in Paris, installed over the running track at the stadium which would bring the fans closer to the pitch. A final decision, expected to be announced early in the new year, involves spending an extra £160million to convert the stadium (above), taking the overall cost to £650m.

    West Ham have offered £15m towards the conversion costs, the LLDC are prepared to put in £40m while Newham Council would contribute £60m.

    West Ham would also pay an annual rent of £2.5m plus a share of catering and commercial income, estimated at £6.5m per year.

    There is also pressure on the government to allocate some of the original Olympic under-spend on construction costs.

    Refurbishment would also include a new roof, which would necessitate the installation of new floodlights.
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    Post  Campo on Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:00 am

    Today I am proud that our great club has been awarded Highest-Ranked Bidder status to become anchor concessionaire at the Olympic Stadium, offering us an historic opportunity to return to West Ham and make this magnificent iconic Stadium our home for the next 100 years.

    First and foremost I would like to wholeheartedly thank you, our loyal and passionate supporters, for your patience.

    I thank those of you who have given your time to share your views and opinions. I assure you, despite the considerable constraints and confidentially agreements we were required to enter into, that your feedback has been instrumental in informing the Board's approach to our bid.

    It is important for all supporters to note that while today's decision represents a huge step forward, as we have stated throughout, Highest-Ranked Bidder status does not mean that West Ham United have at this stage agreed to the move and it remains the case that we will only do so if the final proposal is right for the Club and our supporters. This includes the necessity of agreeing a Stadium design specification that is acceptable to us in terms of its ability to host world-class football matches.
    Therefore we believe that this is the time for supporters to have their voices heard and a more intensive consultation process will commence immediately.

    We have been given assurances that our full vision for a world- class Stadium in terms of supporter experience, sightlines and facilities will be realised and we cannot wait for you to be able to see this for yourselves. This Stadium will have sightlines better than Wembley. Our vision includes a state of the art solution to bring supporters closer to the action and a roof that can harness our world famous atmosphere.

    We, like you, have been frustrated by the constraints upon us in terms of our ability to share our plans and can assure you that we will now share full details as soon as we are able to.

    As part of this we stand by our commitment to conduct full supporter consultation regarding the move, including the polling of supporters. You can be confident that wherever there is an opportunity for West Ham to input in the decisions going forward, our supporters will be at the forefront.

    We have already taken the first step towards this by calling an emergency meeting of our Supporter Advisory Board on Tuesday 11th December at 6pm to advise on the best methods to consult the wider support base going forward.

    We truly believe that this move, together with the realisation of the many other key goals that we as a Board have set out to achieve from the outset, will play a huge part in helping us to realise our ambitious vision to move the Club to the next level.

    Our absolute priority is to take you on this fantastic journey with us, to consult with you and ensure you are a part of it every step of the way. We are also hoping to make the club more accessible to those of you that have previously been unable to attend matches regularly due to barriers such as affordability and accessibility.

    We have high ambitions for West Ham United and will seek your full input to ensure this iconic world-class Stadium becomes a true home for our club, our proud heritage and you, our deserving and loyal fans.
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