Should Sam Allardyce get the sacked who would you want to come in and take over ?

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    Should Sam Allardyce get the sacked who would you want to come in and take over ?

    Post  Arran H on Fri May 16, 2014 7:11 am

    Should the board decide to sack Sam Allardyce who want to come and take over and Why ?
    Their are two Managers who I wouldn't mind managing West Ham and they are David Moyes and Michael Laudrup

    David Moyes : Take the away the Man Utd Job and he has had a successful managerial career at First Preston then Everton , At Everton he got them in the top half every year without fail and did it on a similar budget to us so we know he can do a good job without needing to spend money and he wont play the hoof and hope for the best style football we get under Sam !
    David Moyes record at Everton and Utd :
    Everton : Pld518 W218 D139 L161 WIN%42.08
    Man Utd: Pld51 W27 D9 L15 WIN%52.94

    Michael Laudrup : Did a brilliant Job at Swansea , He plays the right style of football and the style football we all want West ham to be associated with and gives the youth a chance and I believe that we would have more chance of filling out the Olympic stadium with him or Moyes in charge then would under fat Sam and we would attract better players !
    Michael Laudrup`s record at Swansea : Pld84 W29 D24 L31 WIN%34.52

    And just for those who may of wanted to see what Sam Allardyce`s record with us is: Pld138 W55 D32 L51 WIN%39.86


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    Post  westhamonkey on Fri May 16, 2014 7:30 am



    Moyes does't play attractive football. Give it half a season and everyone who's complaining like they're a Hungry Hammer clone will be shrieking for Moyes' head.

    I said it elsewhere... as much as people say Moyes was a highly successful manager at Everton, he never won anything and I know from the experience of having a Toffees fan as a mate over here and getting up to go to the pub early on saturday and sunday mornings to watch them over a number of years while I've been here that they were never a consistent team over a season.
    They'd either start well and fade out in the second half of the season or start poorly then save themselves with a good run in towards the end.

    So as much as it looks like Moyes would be a great candidate, I'm not at all convinced it would do anything other than a step backwards or a step sideways - neither of which we want.

    Plus we'd never be able to afford Fellani - nor do we actually want him.


    Laudrup is a different kettle of fish... my knee jerk reaction is that sure, I'd be happy to have him onboard.

    but then look at his stats... he's got a worse win percentage than BFSA... so the football might be better but then once we win less games and begin flirting with relegation on a regular basis... the end result? He'll get the sack as quickly and as ruthlessly as he did at Swansea.


    It's a really difficult decision and I don't envy the Board/Owners in having to make it,
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    Post  alfiehammer on Fri May 16, 2014 6:48 pm

    The name I've heard and would throw into the equation is slaven billic.


    After a brief loss of faith, I'm going with the back Sam for one more season approach
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    Post  Campo on Fri May 16, 2014 7:19 pm

    Not so much as who we want
    it is more to do with who would want the job
    and lets be honest the list is very very short
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    Post  Jiggs on Sat May 17, 2014 12:55 am

    Can't we adopt the 'Have I got news for you' format of a different manager every week?


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    Post  Hungry Hammer 66 on Sat May 17, 2014 2:56 am

    I've heard Benitez's name banded about and he would be my number one choice  more realistically Laudrup or Billic or Moyes but as Campo has already pointed out and even more realistically, who would want to come to us !!


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    Post  Hungry Hammer 66 on Sat May 17, 2014 3:04 am

    westhamonkey wrote:

    Moyes does't play attractive football. Give it half a season and everyone who's complaining like they're a Hungry Hammer clone will be shrieking for Moyes' head.

    I said it elsewhere... as much as people say Moyes was a highly successful manager at Everton, he never won anything and I know from the experience of having a Toffees fan as a mate over here and getting up to go to the pub early on saturday and sunday mornings to watch them over a number of years while I've been here that they were never a consistent team over a season.
    They'd either start well and fade out in the second half of the season or start poorly then save themselves with a good run in towards the end.

    So as much as it looks like Moyes would be a great candidate, I'm not at all convinced it would do anything other than a step backwards or a step sideways - neither of which we want.

    Plus we'd never be able to afford Fellani - nor do we actually want him.


    Laudrup is a different kettle of fish... my knee jerk reaction is that sure, I'd be happy to have him onboard.

    but then look at his stats... he's got a worse win percentage than BFSA... so the football might be better but then once we win less games and begin flirting with relegation on a regular basis... the end result? He'll get the sack as quickly and as ruthlessly as he did at Swansea.


    It's a really difficult decision and I don't envy the Board/Owners in having to make it,
    Awhhh, thanks for the mention monkey-man, made my day......... Actually that's a lie,being  sat in the currant bun all day, drinking I.P.A and listening to old Skool Soul and Reggae made my day !!!!

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    Post  Arran H on Sat May 17, 2014 5:57 pm

    I see today that we are being linked with Steve McClaren , If we get McClaren then that is a MASSIVE step back !
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    Post  Hungry Hammer 66 on Sat May 17, 2014 6:45 pm

    Agree and not the firsts time we have been linked with him
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    Post  alfiehammer on Sat May 17, 2014 7:00 pm

    Former England manager and, respect to him, he did pretty well managing a small club to the title in Netherlands. That said I wouldn't be that excited if the umbrella man got it.
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    Post  JulianDicksLeftKnee on Sat May 17, 2014 9:50 pm





    Better get these back in stock at the club shop then.
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    Post  Dan C on Sat May 17, 2014 10:11 pm

    With McClaren, for every Derby/Middlesbrough/Twente, there is a Nottingham Forest/England/Wolfsburg.

    Bilic would be my choice and no-one else comes close. However, Bilic has two years left on a £1.5m a year contract at Besiktas. Sam has one year remaining on a £2.75m a year deal. Getting rid of Sam and his backroom team would cost close on £4m - add buying Bilic out of his contract and you're looking at £7m before we've even bought a player this summer. I'm now inclined to keep Sam until his contract runs down and then pay just £1.5m in total to bring in Bilic to oversee the final season at the Boleyn and the move to the OS.
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    Post  westhamonkey on Sun May 18, 2014 2:38 pm



    If McClaren gets Derby promoted to the Prem he's hardly likely to jump ship for another club...

    If, however, Derby don't win the Chimps play-off then...

    holy shite...

    is this May 23rd board meeting before or after the Chimps play-off final?

    oooh... jeez... it's the day after...

      

    c'mon you RAMS!!!!!!!!
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    Post  Tony P on Sun May 18, 2014 6:57 pm

    It's the day before
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    Post  Harry R on Mon May 19, 2014 12:19 am

    Bookies have Gus Poyet as odds on favourite to be the next manager, guess I'd be fairly happy with that given the job he's done at Sunderland this season.
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    Post  JulianDicksLeftKnee on Mon May 19, 2014 12:25 am

    He'd be mad to take it. Would seriously question his commitment-jumping from one relegation battle torn team to another within a year of taking Blunderland job.
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    Post  Harry R on Mon May 19, 2014 12:31 am

    Really don't see West Ham as relegation threatened or at least the're no need to be. We should have quite comfortably beaten several poor teams that we didn't due to the fat mans negative tactics against teams whose defense couldn't cope with us on the attack. Sam's tactic work well enough when playing big teams but he seems to have no idea about changing it when it comes to playing poorer teams. West Ham have got a lot more going for them than Sunderland.
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    Post  alfiehammer on Mon May 19, 2014 2:36 am

    I wouldnt mind poyet. i think he'll probably stay put mind. can't be easy keep uprooting to different parts of the country. Although i'd want to be on that northern winter personally. I think with the OS looming we must be quite an attractive proposition.


    Going off on a tangent, I'm quite expecting to hear rumours about people want to invest/buy us out starting to emerge in the papers...
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    Post  Dan C on Mon May 19, 2014 5:01 am

    I would be furious if Poyet got the West Ham job - it would only be on the basis of a win against Chelsea and a draw at Man City at the back end of the season. Poyet's side failed to win a home game against a side that finished in the bottom half from when he took over until the Cardiff game at the end of April - worse still, they only scored ONE goal against one of those sides in that time (against us, by which point we were already 2-0 up!).

    West Ham have scored six goals in a game once since January 1998 - that was against Gus Poyet's Brighton. West Ham are also not known for being too bright on away form - against Poyet's sides, we have a 100% record on the road.

    To get rid of Allardyce would not be too bad a thing, but to get rid of him in favour of Poyet would be suicide.

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