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    • West Ham United host Stoke City on Monday night hoping to make it seven Barclays Premier League points from a possible nine. Fresh off the back of a fantastic 1-0 win away at Newcastle United on Sunday 11 November, Sam Allardyce's side return to the ground where they held champions Manchester City to a deserved draw last time out on Saturday 3 November.

    • The Hammers start Monday's match seventh in the Barclays Premier League after dropping one place following Arsenal's 5-2 home win over Tottenham Hotspur on Saturday. However, any victory for the home side would see them rise to fifth in the table and within three points of third-place Chelsea.

    • Stoke City start the weekend in 12th place with 12 points. The Potters have yet to win on the road in the 2012/13 Barclays Premier League season, but they have picked up three points through draws at Arsenal, Wigan Athletic and Liverpool

    • West Ham United and Stoke City have kept the joint-most clean sheets in the Barclays Premier League this season with five. Norwich City have also pitched five shut-outs following Saturday's 1-0 home win over Manchester United.

    • West Ham United have picked up eleven points from six home Barclays Premier League games so far, beating Aston Villa (1-0), Fulham (3-0) and Southampton (4-1), drawing with Sunderland (1-1) and Manchester City (0-0) and losing out to Arsenal (1-3).

    • Former West Ham United players Matthew Upson and Matthew Etherington could both take part on Monday night. Etherington made 195 appearances in claret and blue before joining the Potters in January 2009. Upson made 147 appearances between January 2007 and May 2011 scoring four goals, one of which came against current club Stoke in a 2-1 defeat.

    • West Ham United and Stoke City last faced each other in the 2010/11 season playing each other four times over the course of the campaign. The Hammers prevailed in both home matches, winning 3-1 in the League Cup and 3-0 in the Barclays Premier League. The return Barclays Premier League fixture saw a goalless draw played out but Stoke came out on top in the FA Cup sixth round, winning 2-1 en route to Wembley.

    • The two clubs have met just six times in the Barclays Premier League, with West Ham United winning three, Stoke City winning two and one ending in stalemate.


    Team news

    West Ham United

    • Guy Demel, Modibo Maiga and Gary O'Neil are all pushing for starts after impressing as substitutes at Newcastle United last time out. Maiga would make his first Barclays Premier League start for the club, while O'Neil would make his first Barclays Premier League start of the season.

    • The trio are hoping to start as George McCartney (groin), Matt Jarvis (hip) and Yossi Benayoun (hip) were all forced off with injuries at St James' Park.

    • James Collins will hope to force his way back into the starting XI after being left on the bench at St James' Park. If he starts, James Tomkins is likeliest to miss out.

    • Ricardo Vaz Te (shoulder), Alou Diarra (thigh), Matt Taylor (back) and Jack Collison (knee) are all definitely out.

    • Stephen Henderson (Ipswich Town) and Ravel Morrison (Birmingham City) are both out on loan.

    Stoke City

    • Republic of Ireland midfielder Glenn Whelan is a major doubt after injuring his hamstring in his country's friendly international defeat by Greece in Dublin last week.

    • Midfielders Dean Whitehead (suspension) and Rory Delap (hernia) and defender Marc Wilson (broken leg) are definitely ruled out, while striker Michael Owen (hamstring) almost certainly is unavailable.

    • F orward Jon Walters (knee) and midfielder Charlie Adam (groin) are expected to be available despite picking up knocks.


    Last time out

    Sunday 11 November 2012
    Barclays Premier League
    Newcastle United 0-1 West Ham United
    West Ham United: Jaaskelainen, Reid, McCartney (Demel 66), Tomkins, O'Brien, Nolan, KJarvis (Maiga 34), Benayoun (O'Neil 52), Noble, Diame, Carroll
    Subs not used: Spiegel, Collins, Cole, Hall
    Goal: Nolan 37

    Saturday 10 November 2012
    Barclays Premier League
    Stoke City 1-0 Queens Park Rangers
    Stoke City: Begovic, Cameron, Huth, Shawcross Wilkinson, Whelan, Nzonzi, Adam (Whitehead 77), Etherington (Kightly 71), Walters, Crouch (Jones 74)
    Subs not used: Sorensen, Upson, Palacios, Jerome
    Goal: Adam 52

    Last meeting

    The last meeting between the two sides came at the Britannia Stadium on 13 March 2011 in the sixth round of the FA Cup. Stoke City emerged with a 2-1 victory with Danny Higginbotham scoring the all-important winning goal in the 63rd minute from a free-kick. Robert Huth headed the Potters in front after 12 minutes before Frederic Piquionne drew the sides level on the half-hour mark. Former Hammer Matty Etherington would see his penalty saved by Robert Green before Higginbotham's decisive intervention. The result sent Stoke to their first FA Cup semi-final in 39 years. They would go on to reach the final but would suffer heartbreak at the hands of Manchester City courtesy of a second-half strike by Yaya Toure.

    Stoke City: Sorensen, Higginbotham, Huth, Shawcross, Whelan, Wilson, Pennant (Whitehead 81), Delap, Etherington (Collins 90), Jones (Fuller 90), Walters
    Subs not used: Nash, Wilkinson, Pugh, Diao

    West Ham United: Green, Tomkins, Upson, Da Costa, Bridge, Parker, Hitzlsperger, Noble (Hines 81), Cole, Piquionne (Spector 35), Obinna (Keane 68)
    Subs not used: Boffin, Gabbidon, Jacobsen, Boa Morte


    Background

    • Monday's game is the 83rd time West Ham United and Stoke City have faced one another in competitive fixtures. West Ham have won 33, Stoke 30 and there have been 19 draws.

    • Stoke City are considered to be the second-oldest professional football club in the world behind Notts County. Formed in 1863, the Potters were also one of the 12 founding members of the Football league in 1888.

    • West Ham first faced Stoke in a Southern League First Division match at the Boleyn Ground on 16 December 1911. The Potters won the game 4-3 with William Kennedy (two) and Tom Randall on target for the Hammers.

    • West Ham's biggest win over Stoke City came in the 1957/58 season. Vic Keeble bagged a hat-trick in a 5-0 Division Two victory on 6 November 1957, the Hammers would go onto be promoted. Keeble also scored twice in the reverse fixture - a 4-1 win at the Victoria Ground the following March.

    • Stoke City held West Ham United to a goalless draw at the Victoria Ground exactly 80-years to the day that Monday's fixture will take place. The result is one of six goalless draws that have taken place between the two clubs.


    Head to head

    Last six meetings (Premier League unless stated)

    13 March 2011 - Stoke City 2-1 West Ham United (FA Cup sixth round)
    5 March 2011 - West Ham United 3-0 Stoke City
    27 October 2010 - West Ham United 3-1 Stoke City (Carling Cup fourth round)
    18 September 2010 - Stoke City 1-1 West Ham United
    27 March 2010 - West Ham United 0-1 Stoke City
    17 October 2009 - Stoke City 2-1 West Ham United

    Overall record v Stoke City (all competitions) W 33 D 19 L 30


    Ten-year records

    West Ham United

    2011/12 Championship 3rd (86 points - promoted to Premier League via Play-Offs)
    2010/11 Premier League 20th (33 points - relegated to Championship)
    2009/10 Premier League 17th (35 points)
    2008/09 Premier League 9th (51 points)
    2007/08 Premier League 10th (49 points)
    2006/07 Premier League 15th (41 points)
    2005/06 Premier League 9th (55 points)
    2004/05 Championship 6th (73 points - promoted to Premier League via Play-Offs)
    2003/04 Championship 4th (74 points)
    2002/03 Premier League 18th (42 points - relegated to Championship)

    Stoke City

    2011/12 Premier League 14th (45 points)
    2010/11 Premier League 13th (46 points)
    2009/10 Premier League 11th (47 points)
    2008/09 Premier League 12th (45 points)
    2007/08 Championship 2nd (79 points - promoted to the Premier League)
    2006/07 Championship 8th (73 points)
    2005/06 Championship 13th (58 points)
    2004/05 Championship 12th (61 points)
    2003/04 Division One 11th (66 points)
    2002/03 Division One 21st (50 points)


    Referee

    • Monday night's referee will be Chris Foy.

    • Foy has already taken charge of one West Ham United fixture this season - the goalless draw at Norwich City on 15 September.

    • He took charge of two West Ham United fixtures last season, refereeing the Hammers' 2-0 npower Championship win over Cardiff in March and the 4-2 home defeat by Reading the same month.

    • Foy has been a Premier League referee since 2001, having originally made the Select Group list of assistant referees in 1995.

    • He took charge of the FA Trophy final at Wembley in 2007 before returning to the Home of Football a year later as fourth official in the FA Cup final between Portsmouth and Cardiff.

    • Foy's affiliation with Wembley has continued and he returned in 2009 to take charge of the League Cup final and the Community Shield before refereeing the 2010 FA Cup final between Chelsea and Portsmouth.

    • Foy will be assisted by Harry Lennard and Michael McDonough, while the fourth official will be Howard Webb.


    Old boys

    • Former West Ham United captain Matthew Upson played 147 matches for the Hammers between January 2007 and May 2011. He captained the club for the final two years of his stay and scored four goals in total before joining the Potters in the Summer of 2011.

    • Stoke winger Matthew Etherington made 195 appearances for West Ham between August 2003 and January 2009, scoring 18 goals. He joined the Potters on 8 January 2009, having moved to the Boleyn Ground from Tottenham Hotspur five-and-a-half years previously.

    • Among the other players who have represented both clubs are Clive Clarke, Bob Dixon, Sir Geoff Hurst, Lawrie Leslie, Nicky Morgan, Henri Camara and Frank Richardson.


    General information

    • For the latest London Underground, bus and DLR updates, click here .

    • An extremely limited number of tickets remain available, with prices starting at just £20 for Adults and £15 for Kids. Tckets can be purchased by clicking here .

    • The weather forecast for Monday night is clear with maximum temperatures of 6C so wrap up warm or visit the club shop before kick-off to purchase from our new winterwear range.


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    Post  alfiehammer Fri 16 Nov 2012, 7:12 pm

    I'll be thereeeeee Evil or Very Mad WH Flag
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    Post  SemiOldIron Mon 19 Nov 2012, 12:29 pm

    I would guess that most neutrals would have this down for an uninspiring 0-0 draw - the Allardyce " method" versus the Pulis "method" - therefore we'll probably end up with a goal-fest. Whatever - beating Stoke is really important to me, we need to demonstrate that we are a better class of football club than this unlovable shower.
    Ooooh! there's a surprise - Michael Owen is injured! Whatever next! Very Happy

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    Post  Suzanne Claret Mon 19 Nov 2012, 12:57 pm

    I very much hope otherwise but I fear with Jarvis and Yossi out this will be a freezing cold, war of attrition, nil nil draw.

    I have brought extra socks and a hat.
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    Post  Johnny K Mon 19 Nov 2012, 2:06 pm

    ok Stoke - coming down south with your fancy dan passing game. You wait until we chuck a few 'route 1's' at yer. Come on then you soft norvern bastards - let's see what you got!
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    Post  Suzanne Claret Mon 19 Nov 2012, 4:00 pm

    cheesey grin
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    Post  Admin Mon 19 Nov 2012, 4:16 pm

    Like your style JK cheesey grin
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    Post  Jiggs Mon 19 Nov 2012, 4:17 pm

    The most boring game I ever saw at the Boleyn, was 0-0, against them in the chumps, and that was a cold night too.....

    It's beyond me why Sky chose to show it. Rolling Eyes
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    Post  JulianDicksLeftKnee Mon 19 Nov 2012, 4:30 pm

    Jiggs wrote:The most boring game I ever saw at the Boleyn, was 0-0, against them in the chumps, and that was a cold night too.....

    It's beyond me why Sky chose to show it. Rolling Eyes

    They only have Golf fairway camera men available. HOOF!

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    Post  Campo Mon 19 Nov 2012, 4:49 pm

    cheesey grin
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    Post  Campo Mon 19 Nov 2012, 4:50 pm

    Jiggs wrote:

    It's beyond me why Sky chose to show it. Rolling Eyes

    So that people like me with knackered necks can watch the game without any chance of further injury
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    Post  Charlie Ham Mon 19 Nov 2012, 5:10 pm

    Not going tonight, just my sons going.

    I hate these televised game midweek and just have an uneasy feeling about tonight.

    Be glad when it is over and we have the 3 points.

    Come on Carroll give us a hat trick.
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    Post  Admin Mon 19 Nov 2012, 5:17 pm

    West Ham United FC v Stoke Sam-Allardyce

    Even before the start of the season a clash between West Ham and Stoke would have done little to get the pulses racing and the fact that the pair have two of the meanest defences in the Premier League suggests even more that a bore draw is a big possibility at Upton Park.

    Backing the 0-0 draw may not be the most exciting bet for a televised game on Monday Night Football, but this could be the most lucrative option on offer for punters at 7/1.

    There have only been eight goalless games thus far in the Premier League this season and five of these have involved either West Ham or Stoke.

    Jussi Jaaskelainen and Asmir Begovic have been two of the toughest goalkeepers to breach this season, keeping ten clean sheets between them.

    In fact, no team has shut out the opposition more than the five times that this has been achieved by West Ham and Stoke.

    The big problem could well be that the pair both operate similar playing styles, getting the ball forward quickly for strikers to either flick on to midfield runners or lay off to get early balls into the box.

    Both defences should also be well-versed in what to expect and it may well take a moment of individual brilliance or a goalmouth melee to break the deadlock.

    For punters believing that there will be a goal, the 4/6 on offer for under 2.5 goals is tough to oppose.

    Nine of Stoke’s last 11 league games have seen no more than two goals scored, while they have failed to trouble the scorers in three of their last four on the road.

    There are some whispers that Rob Hall is in line to make his first Premier League start for West Ham and his pace out wide could prove an asset in this fixture in particular.

    He is 10/1 to score first and 3/1 to net at any time in the 90 minutes.

    Interesting
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    Post  JulianDicksLeftKnee Mon 19 Nov 2012, 5:19 pm

    Benny didn't excite me against t'Barcodes, in attack or defence so why not risk a nippy speedy player.
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    Post  Admin Mon 19 Nov 2012, 7:17 pm

    Teams are in

    West Ham United: Jaaskelainen, O'Brien, McCartney, Reid, Tomkins, Noble, Diame, Nolan, O'Neil, Maiga, Carroll
    Subs: Spiegel, Collins, Taylor, Cole, Hall, Spence, Demel

    Stoke City: Begovic, Cameron, Huth, Shawcross, Wilkinson, Whelan, N'Zonzi, Adam, Etherington, Crouch, Walters
    Subs: Sorensen, Palacios, Jones, Upson, Kightly, Shotton, Jerome
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    Post  Campo Mon 19 Nov 2012, 7:39 pm

    3 points please lads.. the next run of fixtures looks like it could be a bit of a rough ride
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    Post  IronDane Mon 19 Nov 2012, 7:53 pm

    Sam will beat Pulis easily! pisser
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    Post  Charlie Ham Mon 19 Nov 2012, 8:31 pm

    Not bloody happy.

    Making it so easy for stoke..
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    Post  Charlie Ham Mon 19 Nov 2012, 8:50 pm

    Got to be honest these Sky commentators are big finguck no nothing toss potts.
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    Post  Admin Mon 19 Nov 2012, 8:52 pm

    Well lets hope Big Sam has a proper word over the sliced oranges cos this aint good enuff people , they are looking dangerous at all set pieces and we are doing our best to make them look good ,
    Sort it out , we have a tuff run upon us
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    Post  Admin Mon 19 Nov 2012, 8:53 pm

    Charlie Ham wrote:Got to be honest these Sky commentators are big finguck no nothing toss potts.


    They are the same over here Charlie , they just copy shit they read in the papers , long ball game , boring game , bore draw , half wits the lot of them
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    Post  JulianDicksLeftKnee Mon 19 Nov 2012, 8:55 pm

    Quite enjoying it. A good old fashioned football match. Goal was a good un, no complaints except Stoke-like Sam's teams, are notorious at set pieces and Diane didn't track Walters arc run around the box.

    We don't look out of control, though I can see Noble going off-he can't tackle but thinks he can!

    Great stream through hammerstv by the way-far better than normal.
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    Post  RichB Mon 19 Nov 2012, 9:02 pm

    We're not out of it but we need to change up a gear, I fel we've looked a little slow at times...
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    Post  Campo Mon 19 Nov 2012, 9:56 pm

    well, we should have had all 3 points but given the first half shit, a point is a point
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    Post  Charlie Ham Mon 19 Nov 2012, 10:00 pm

    Much better in the second half and we should have had all 3 points.
    Bit disappointed. Why can't we play in the first like we did in the second.

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