Man Utd vs WHUFC -- July 22nd, 2020

what was it... 8 players behind the ball and Utd just pass the ball cleanly and easily between them all to set themselves up for a simple strike into the back of the net...

If pure going to do nothing but defend... at least fupping defend...

Cochese wrote:West Ham with some crisp passing out of the halftime talk.

I don't recognize this at all.

I'm sure you recognize it now...

westhamonkey wrote:

Cochese wrote:West Ham with some crisp passing out of the halftime talk.

I don't recognize this at all.

I'm sure you recognize it now...

Yup.

I do like Bowen.

more sloppy passing but somehow we keep possession until Bowen has a shot tipped over by a great save from De Gea...

at least we've not given up...

and it keeps illustrating (no mater how much the powers that be fight against it) how well we do when we actually play on the front foot...

Another Rice Rocket...

just a little high and wide...

drinks break...

westhamonkey wrote:
Another Rice Rocket...

just a little high and wide...

I hope we hold on to him long enough to see that part of his game develop.

Twenty minutes to go and we are looking better.

Masuaku comes on to replace Cresswell...

Bowen takes a knock and looks to have tender ankle...

How long before the new season starts up?

As sad as it might be... might be worth resting up some players to make sure they are fully fit by the start of the new campaign...

Haller coming on... Antonio likely to make way...

so as usual, we swap like for like... no attempt to go for the victory...

fupping hate these tactics...

How do you make two substitutions and still keep Noble in the team?

westhamonkey wrote:
How do you make two substitutions and still keep Noble in the team?

I think they are trying to run his battery out so they can get a new one under a replacement program.

"United haven't had a shot on target since Mason Greenwood's 51st minute goal. It's not been vintage stuff."

That's usually the kiss of death.

Cochese wrote:Twenty minutes to go and we are looking better.

agreed... but there's still massive holes in our game...

passing accuracy

attacking instead of defending...

Bowen is now down getting treatment for his ankle... he'll be taken off now... but you could have taken him off several minutes before and saved him whatever damage has been done now...

Yarmolenko is on for the final few seconds...

Cochese wrote:"United haven't had a shot on target since Mason Greenwood's 51st minute goal. It's not been vintage stuff."

That's usually the kiss of death.

absolutely...

do they have ap layer who's...

'never scored before...'

'making his first appearance...'


those are usually the gifts we like to dole out...

For three more minutes, don't be that West Ham team that gives up a late goal.

Not in 2020 of all years.

fair point from the Guardian...

"88 mins: United look a bit knackered. I guess West Ham’s players should be finishing the game stronger, given that they pretty much took the first three-quarters of the season off."

Noble and giving up a cheap pass.

I've not heard that one before.

final whistle goes... another 2 points lost from a winning position...

but we'll be playing Premier League footie next season...

SAFE!

Cochese wrote:SAFE!

ultimately that's all that counts.

there's a LOT of work to do behind the scenes between now and the next season...

westhamonkey wrote:
final whistle goes... another 2 points lost from a winning position...

but we'll be playing Premier League footie next season...

You know that we were playing an Unbeaten United team that were on Form going into this game . I thought we played really well yesterday,The passing was good and we did try and go for the win while at the same time making sure we didn`t let them in at the back.
If we had played like that all season we`d be up their battling it out for a European Spot.

Arran wrote:

westhamonkey wrote:
final whistle goes... another 2 points lost from a winning position...

but we'll be playing Premier League footie next season...

You know that we were playing an Unbeaten United team that were on Form going into this game . I thought we played really well yesterday,The passing was good and we did try and go for the win while at the same time making sure we didn`t let them in at the back.
If we had played like that all season we`d be up their battling it out for a European Spot.

we played a Man U team that did not play well. If they'd played as well as they could we'd have lost.

our passing (as it has been for most of the past few years) was consistently off, we gave away possession way more often that a solid, decent or winning team would or should.

yes, we played better than we have a lot of times this season - but that's a statement about how consistently poorly we've played, not how we'd be top competitors.

once again, we took the lead in a game and couldn't hold onto it. We conceded right after the break, that exactly what you'd expect. You know the opposition are coming out of the gate to change the tempo and result of the game... school kids would see that coming.
To concede in that fashion shows a lack of discipline and ability to win. Exactly the kind of temperament we've shown over recent years and exactly why we've been in the bottom 6 since november.

We've played better since the restart than we had in the rest of the season (good job we have or we'd be in the championship next season). That's been down to Soucek, Bowen and antonio.

There are big changes needed for the future or the best we can hope for is flirting with relegation and hoping (as happened this year) that there are enough other teams that play badly enough to keep us up.

The upside of recent games is that we've not dropped our heads as badly as we often have - but we still couldn't hold onto a lead against an underperforming Utd side...

whatever time there is in the off-season needs to be spent really looking hard and deep into the club and what they honestly want to achieve.

what it's going to take for the club to pick up and move forward is something everyone will have their own thoughts and opinions on.

I'm happy we escaped relegation this year - on the balance of the entire season we maybe just about deserve it... but it feels to me like we benefitted more form other teams (thank-you very much) being worse than us rather than anything good we've done.

The arrival of Soucek is something to look forward to (is he staying?)

The step up of Bowen from being s serial Premier League loser to strength in the team is good to see.

There's some good youth in Rice and Johnson - but not enough from a team that's supposed to be the 'academy of football'.

Fabianski is still good between the sticks.

but there's not too much beyond that as things stand...

noble needs to be a super sub and nothing more.

antonio is getting on, for him to keep on at the level he's been recently is unlikely

we need forwards... Haller hasn't exactly set the world alight... no one at the club seems to know who Ajeti is... and beyond them... our goalscoring hopes are...??????

anderson has been a collosal waste of money.

lanzini is not the player he looked like he might be

formals played better yesterday than he has in a while - but if that's the best he's got... then... gulp!

Cresswell hasn't been good for some time...

Balbuena???

Diop and Ogbonna blow hot and cold - if they stay I hope they blow hot, if they get replaced by better players, I'll not be devastated.

Given what happened this year and the year before, I'm not convinced the club has it in them to turn the corner. I hope I'm completely wrong on that.
At least we survived 2019/2020

Just no Pleasing some people .

We could be League Champions and you`d still pick things to moan about