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    Post  Admin Thu 06 Sep 2012, 5:27 am



    England news
    Campbell: Moore deserves knighthood
    September 5, 2012
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    By Harry Harris, Football Correspondent
    Bobby Moore is deserving of a posthumous knighthood, according to Bobby Campbell.


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    Bobby Moore: World Cup winner
    Campbell, who was Moore's manager at Fulham, claims in the soon-to-be-released book England Centurions that the defender should be rewarded with title Sir Bobby.

    Even though a statue of the World Cup-winning captain has pride of place at the new Wembley stadium, Campbell believes Moore hasn't received the recognition he is due.

    In the book, which details Moore's life and honours his 100 caps, Campbell argues: "I don't believe that he received the accolade and credit that he deserved. He should have been moved straight to the FA when he finished playing in just the same way the German FA embraced the Kaiser [Franz Beckenbauer].

    "He should have been knighted. Tell me this, if any player captained England to a World Cup triumph in the future, do you think they would be knighted? I am sure that they would. So why wasn't Bobby knighted? In fact, it's not too late. He should be knighted posthumously."

    The vastly experienced Campbell, who also had George Best under his command during his managerial career, said: "I have managed some formidable players in my time, but Bobby Moore was the best professional I ever managed.

    "To be Bobby Moore's manager and mentor for the time that I managed at Fulham, when he was a player there, I can safely say that he was the best professional I ever managed. If you told him there was a game in Outer Mongolia on Christmas Eve, kick off two o'clock, he would be there at one o'clock boots in hand. He was never late.

    "Everything he ever did was immaculate, whether that was in training or in a match - it didn't matter to him. That's the way he was both on and off the field."

    Moore, who died of cancer in 1993, was well known for his polite nature, even when he was alleged to have stolen items from a jeweller's in Bogota, Colombia, prior to the 1970 World Cup in Mexico. The defender was detained by police for four days, and was eventually cleared of any wrong doing.

    "His manner and his character were top class and he represented West Ham and England as the ultimate pro. He even wiped his hand before shaking the Queen's hand before he received the World Cup trophy and he dealt with the so called 'stealing of the watch' with such dignity.

    "As for reaching 100 caps, that in itself is such a wonderful milestone and anyone who makes it to 100 caps deserves to have done so, and that includes David Beckham, another great player. Let's face it David Beckham hasn't done football any harm at all."

    •  England Centurions is published on September 11, launched at Wembley Stadium before the England/Ukraine World Cup qualifier. £1 from every book sold will be donated to the Bobby Moore foundation. Booby's widow, Stephanie Moore, has a message in the book about bowel cancer awareness.

    Well said that man clap


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    Post  manurewa hammer Thu 06 Sep 2012, 7:44 am

    Could never understand why he wasn't knighted. After all Geoff Hurst got the nod and rightly so, but Bobby was the skipper.
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    Post  Sir Ian Thu 06 Sep 2012, 10:26 am

    Sir Geoff got knighted after Bobby died. the main thing i took from that was 19 YEARS he's been gone! ffs where did that go!? Sad
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    Post  Jiggs Thu 06 Sep 2012, 12:31 pm

    Yup....About time he was Sir Bobby to everyone, not just us Hammers supporters heart
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    Post  JulianDicksLeftKnee Thu 06 Sep 2012, 7:20 pm

    Don't think they can award a knighthood post-humously, which would be the main stumbling block.

    Of course Saint Bobby would be perfect.
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    Post  Sir Ian Thu 06 Sep 2012, 7:29 pm

    JulianDicksLeftKnee wrote:Don't think they can award a knighthood post-humously, which would be the main stumbling block.

    Of course Saint Bobby would be perfect.
    there is precedents for posthumous knighthoods i forget their names now, the mickeys want one for bob paisley and shankley as well
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    Post  JulianDicksLeftKnee Thu 06 Sep 2012, 9:33 pm

    Only example I can find is golfer Henry Cotton, who died in between accepting and being awarded the knighthood. See text below.

    ! No, is the answer, honours are only conferred on people who exist, i.e. living people. The clearest case is Admiral Nelson, already a national hero, who was killed at the Battle of Trafalgar, which the forces under his command won. He had already been created a Baron and a Viscount; a further promotion was appropriate to honour such a significant victory, but the problem was that Nelson was dead. Had it been possible to grant him a further title he would have been posthumously created an Earl, but instead his brother, his nearest surviving relative, was created an Earl (as Earl Nelson). Up to that point William Nelson had been an inoffensive country parson; he now found himself raised to a high rank of the peerage, not for anything he had done but in honour of his deceased younger brother. The misconception that a title can be granted posthumously is common; it's based on the case of the golfer Henry Cotton, who died on 22 December 1987, and whose appointment as a knight was announced on 1 January 1988. But in fact Cotton had been offered, and had accepted, a knighthood before he died; the public announcement of this had been delayed because of the convention of announcing new honours either on New Year's Day, or on the Queen's birthday. So the title wasn't conferred posthumously, simply announced posthumously.
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    Post  Admin Fri 07 Sep 2012, 5:05 am

    I think we should get a petition going
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    Post  manurewa hammer Fri 07 Sep 2012, 8:20 am

    I'll sign
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    Post  alfiehammer Fri 07 Sep 2012, 3:34 pm

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    Post  Admin Fri 07 Sep 2012, 5:14 pm

    Right , I,m gonna get a petition going but need someone to put together in no more than a 1000 words why Robert should be knighted . My spelling and grammar needs seriously looking at , any takers ?
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    Post  Admin Fri 07 Sep 2012, 7:02 pm

    Oi you get back here
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    Post  Jiggs Fri 07 Sep 2012, 7:06 pm

    cheesey grin

    I'm busy all weekend hun.....

    You could write it, and I'll check it for ya.

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    Post  Admin Fri 07 Sep 2012, 7:08 pm

    Dan , Tone we need help dudes Bow
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    Post  Jiggs Fri 07 Sep 2012, 7:17 pm

    If neither show up Geeze, I'll be free from Tuesday xx twist
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    Post  Admin Fri 07 Sep 2012, 7:37 pm

    U got a PM
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    Post  Admin Fri 07 Sep 2012, 9:00 pm

    Heres the link people , please sign and spread the link to friends and family. Our target is 1,000,000

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    Post  manurewa hammer Sat 08 Sep 2012, 2:31 am

    Very Happy Cheers Geez, i've signed and forwarded to some mates down here.
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    Post  daib0 Sun 09 Sep 2012, 10:01 am

    Signed for a noble cause.
    I'll get a topic moving on Royals Rendezvous this morning, I'm sure we can help out with signatures ... and if you give me permission I could get the same up on another dozen fan sites ...
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    Post  Chas Hammer Sun 09 Sep 2012, 10:12 am

    Thanks. Posted on fb Smile
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    Post  Admin Sun 09 Sep 2012, 10:17 am

    daib0 wrote:Signed for a noble cause.
    I'll get a topic moving on Royals Rendezvous this morning, I'm sure we can help out with signatures ... and if you give me permission I could get the same up on another dozen fan sites ...

    Thanks for your help dude , appreciate it
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    Post  daib0 Sun 09 Sep 2012, 12:19 pm

    Admin wrote:
    daib0 wrote:Signed for a noble cause.
    I'll get a topic moving on Royals Rendezvous this morning, I'm sure we can help out with signatures ... and if you give me permission I could get the same up on another dozen fan sites ...

    Thanks for your help dude , appreciate it


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    Post  Admin Sun 09 Sep 2012, 1:17 pm

    Thanks a lot for your help DaibO that will reach a lot of people clap
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    Post  Johnny K Sun 09 Sep 2012, 1:31 pm

    Nice one G & daib0 !!

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