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JulianDicksLeftKnee
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Andy Carroll
alfiehammer- Reserves
- Posts : 1927
Join date : 2012-08-15
Age : 41
Location : East Sussex
westhamonkey- 1st team
- Posts : 4621
Join date : 2011-04-04
he's slated to come back in 2016 selling ice creams at half time in the OS...
mottinghammer- 1st Team Bench
- Posts : 2673
Join date : 2011-02-22
Age : 67
Location : Narf Naarfolk 140 miles from UP
Well there's a surprise!
Now's the time to go for Charlie Austin and make sure we get him! English, scores goals even in a crap team and doesn't get injured what could be better. If our new sick-note ever comes back he would be a good back up for Austin!
Now's the time to go for Charlie Austin and make sure we get him! English, scores goals even in a crap team and doesn't get injured what could be better. If our new sick-note ever comes back he would be a good back up for Austin!
JulianDicksLeftKnee- Reserves
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Join date : 2011-02-18
Age : 54
Location : SE London now days
Read the other day he is hoping to be back in 3-4 weeks.
I presume they mean back in Spire Roding hospital.
I presume they mean back in Spire Roding hospital.
westhamonkey- 1st team
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Join date : 2011-04-04
it's immaterial how near or far his return to first team action is...
it's how soon after that date that he returns to the sick bay
alfiehammer- Reserves
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Join date : 2012-08-15
Age : 41
Location : East Sussex
When he's on his game I still think he's our first choice, hopefully along side Sakho
mottinghammer- 1st Team Bench
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Join date : 2011-02-22
Age : 67
Location : Narf Naarfolk 140 miles from UP
Not many times he's on his game unfortunately! Some people are unlucky but he is taking the rise now
JulianDicksLeftKnee- Reserves
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Join date : 2011-02-18
Age : 54
Location : SE London now days
Don't get how it's his fault? We had all this with Ashton; He was castigated for taking a wage.
I think a player is probably more gutted than a fan with injuries, yes they get paid atill but the reason they've got to this level is drive, ambition and fully utilise a natural talent.
I think a player is probably more gutted than a fan with injuries, yes they get paid atill but the reason they've got to this level is drive, ambition and fully utilise a natural talent.
Jiggs- 1st team
- Posts : 5703
Join date : 2011-02-18
Age : 66
Location : Romford or Upton Park
The club must have some sort of insurance cover for long term injuries?
Tony P- 1st Team Bench
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Join date : 2011-02-19
Age : 63
Location : Sidcup, Kent
Bilic said he should be back for the Liverpool or Newcastle game
Namhammer- Ball Boy/Girl
- Posts : 109
Join date : 2011-02-20
Hope so TonyTony P wrote:Bilic said he should be back for the Liverpool or Newcastle game
I for one rate him and don't believe we have to change our style to accommodate him.
As for his injuries feel for the bloke... It's not his fault and hate the snyde digs at him.... He gives his all whilst wearing the shirt!
Tony P- 1st Team Bench
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Join date : 2011-02-19
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Location : Sidcup, Kent
Namhammer wrote:Hope so TonyTony P wrote:Bilic said he should be back for the Liverpool or Newcastle game
I for one rate him and don't believe we have to change our style to accommodate him.
As for his injuries feel for the bloke... It's not his fault and hate the snyde digs at him.... He gives his all whilst wearing the shirt!
Agreed dude
Jiggs- 1st team
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Location : Romford or Upton Park
Agreed ..... Hope he gets on at some point Monday.
alfiehammer- Reserves
- Posts : 1927
Join date : 2012-08-15
Age : 41
Location : East Sussex
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Fully agreed. That said, praying to the claret and blue god that injuries now behind him and can have a productive and injury free season.
Namhammer wrote:Hope so TonyTony P wrote:Bilic said he should be back for the Liverpool or Newcastle game
I for one rate him and don't believe we have to change our style to accommodate him.
As for his injuries feel for the bloke... It's not his fault and hate the snyde digs at him.... He gives his all whilst wearing the shirt!
Fully agreed. That said, praying to the claret and blue god that injuries now behind him and can have a productive and injury free season.
Namhammer- Ball Boy/Girl
- Posts : 109
Join date : 2011-02-20
alfiehammer wrote:GNamhammer wrote:Hope so TonyTony P wrote:Bilic said he should be back for the Liverpool or Newcastle game
I for one rate him and don't believe we have to change our style to accommodate him.
As for his injuries feel for the bloke... It's not his fault and hate the snyde digs at him.... He gives his all whilst wearing the shirt!
Fully agreed. That said, praying to the claret and blue god that injuries now behind him and can have a productive and injury free season.
SemiOldIron- Academy
- Posts : 975
Join date : 2011-07-13
Location : Oxfordshire
I'm beginning to wonder if the days of players like Carroll are numbered in the modern game at top level.
Nothing to do with skill and ability, or even the set-up that teams play, just that the modern game makes terrific physical demands on the players bodies. Everyone on the pitch including the keeper have to be ultra fit, which means high levels of training and practice matches even if you're not playing first team. Ligament and tendon injuries seem more common nowadays for all players just from the stress on the joints, and if you are a big guy whose game mainly consists of repeatedly jumping to challenge, then the landing stress and shock on the legs is really heavy. If you are a central defender you get a bit of slack time in the game to recover, but modern CFs are required to cover a lot more ground nowadays and have a much higher workrate than in years gone by.
I like Carroll, I think he gives the side a whole new dimension, but as a big guy with an injury record who puts himself about he's always going to be dangerously close to leaving the field on a stretcher again, I fear. Fingers crossed...
Nothing to do with skill and ability, or even the set-up that teams play, just that the modern game makes terrific physical demands on the players bodies. Everyone on the pitch including the keeper have to be ultra fit, which means high levels of training and practice matches even if you're not playing first team. Ligament and tendon injuries seem more common nowadays for all players just from the stress on the joints, and if you are a big guy whose game mainly consists of repeatedly jumping to challenge, then the landing stress and shock on the legs is really heavy. If you are a central defender you get a bit of slack time in the game to recover, but modern CFs are required to cover a lot more ground nowadays and have a much higher workrate than in years gone by.
I like Carroll, I think he gives the side a whole new dimension, but as a big guy with an injury record who puts himself about he's always going to be dangerously close to leaving the field on a stretcher again, I fear. Fingers crossed...
alfiehammer- Reserves
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I do agree to an extent, but then when I see some of the crunching tackles and muddy pitches (how there wasn't more ankle and knee injuries I'll never know) of by gone years plus the poor diets I do wonder how teams got through seasons with such small squads- didn't even used to have subs back then. As a modern fan it's baffling.
I think a player like Carroll could survive in the meddlers game but (as a personal trainer) I'd give him a very unique and structured training program to help build up the explosive power needed.
Very interesting article I read yesterday, supposedly quotes from billic unhappy at Sam's handling of Carroll, rushing him back from injuries far too fast and not protecting him. Food for thought
SemiOldIron wrote:I'm beginning to wonder if the days of players like Carroll are numbered in the modern game at top level.
Nothing to do with skill and ability, or even the set-up that teams play, just that the modern game makes terrific physical demands on the players bodies. Everyone on the pitch including the keeper have to be ultra fit, which means high levels of training and practice matches even if you're not playing first team. Ligament and tendon injuries seem more common nowadays for all players just from the stress on the joints, and if you are a big guy whose game mainly consists of repeatedly jumping to challenge, then the landing stress and shock on the legs is really heavy. If you are a central defender you get a bit of slack time in the game to recover, but modern CFs are required to cover a lot more ground nowadays and have a much higher workrate than in years gone by.
I like Carroll, I think he gives the side a whole new dimension, but as a big guy with an injury record who puts himself about he's always going to be dangerously close to leaving the field on a stretcher again, I fear. Fingers crossed...
I do agree to an extent, but then when I see some of the crunching tackles and muddy pitches (how there wasn't more ankle and knee injuries I'll never know) of by gone years plus the poor diets I do wonder how teams got through seasons with such small squads- didn't even used to have subs back then. As a modern fan it's baffling.
I think a player like Carroll could survive in the meddlers game but (as a personal trainer) I'd give him a very unique and structured training program to help build up the explosive power needed.
Very interesting article I read yesterday, supposedly quotes from billic unhappy at Sam's handling of Carroll, rushing him back from injuries far too fast and not protecting him. Food for thought