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    Pardew and the Barcodes - a theory

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    Post  SemiOldIron Wed 21 Aug 2013, 10:59 am

    I'm not terribly bothered about the Barcodes, but I take an interest much in the same way that you can't stop yourself slowing down to look at a horrible car-smash on the other carriageway of the motorway. It has always puzzled me why Ashley suddenly decided to give Pardew an 8-year contract - it's not as if he was turning them into European superstars at the time, Pardew is not a unique genius of football management, and I don't see Ashley as someone given to impetuous acts of generosity. I've just come across the theory that Ashley was convinced that Pardew would be offered the England job, and wanted to maximise the compensation from the FA, hence the longest contract for a manager seen for years. When the plan backfired and he ended up lumbered with Pards for as far as the eye can see, he brought in the odious Kinnear over his head to try and make him break the contract and walk. Anyone else heard this? - sounds plausible to me if the timeline is right. No wonder the Barcodes fans detest the fat git. I never thought I would be hugely grateful that we got bought by two elderly pornographers, but I am now, very grateful indeed.

    Anyway, feel free to use this thread to abuse the Barcodes in any way you like until the match thread gets unlocked.hatsoff
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    Post  shaun of the thread Wed 21 Aug 2013, 11:39 am

    I think your theory might be right SOI, the 8 year contract did seem a bit much for anyone in football including players. Has there been any1 who has had a contract for that long before ?

    It's a shame really because when Pards was at reading , Fergie said he was the most up and coming manager at the time. He then come to us and after what allegedly went on with him and a certain player's wife, things started to go downwards for him...... Seems dead mad that both ex WHU manager's both thought they were going to be the next England manager, yet neither did and if anything pards got the better deal from it...

    Like you I'm glad the 2 Dave's rescued us when they did. Look at how well they have handled the club since takin over..

    I actually like the barcodes and some of their fans, (apart from when they beat us ) . So I won't be using this thread to abuse them.....
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    Post  Suzanne Claret Wed 21 Aug 2013, 1:00 pm

    SOI if that is true then it’s hilarious, Pardew was never in a million years in line for the England job.  Mike Ashley is a right nut job, giving the one/two season wonder that is Pardew an eight year contact is just bloody stupid and to give Kinnear a job, again is off the chart even for him.
     
    Newcastle are sitting on a pile of nitro-glycerine and one more little rumble and the whole thing is going to go bang.
     
    Don’t get me wrong I will always be grateful to Pardew for giving me three seasons in three years.  But he is a bit of a knob.
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    Post  Dan C Wed 21 Aug 2013, 1:03 pm

    I won't be abusing them either. One of my favourite 'other' clubs, along with Liverpool. Must be from growing up in a Man Utd-dominated era in the early-to-mid-'90s.

    Interesting, and probably accurate, theory though SOI.
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    Post  SemiOldIron Wed 21 Aug 2013, 3:19 pm

    I would stress that it's not my own theory, I came across it on a forum with a Barcoder stating it as fact - I'd never heard it before and I wondered if anyone else had.
    If it's true then Ashley is an idiot for believing Pards was in for the England job, if it's not true he's still an idiot for dishing out a contract like that for no reason. Maybe he was pissed ...?
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    Post  Tony P Wed 21 Aug 2013, 7:25 pm

    I have no time for them or their deluded fans. They may get 55,000 every home game. So would we if we were the ONLY club in the city FFS ! We compete with 10 other London clubs for support included very wealthy clubs like Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal and now Fulham

    They haven't won a major trophy since 1969. Big club my arse

    I hope they go down
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    Post  Kray JR Wed 21 Aug 2013, 7:53 pm

    Hoping we give them a hammering at the weekend then I think Ashley will give Pardew Morecambe in the cup and maybe Fulham away to save his job.
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    Post  Johnny K Thu 22 Aug 2013, 1:16 pm

    I have swung from not minding the barcodes to finding them to be delusional & a diva club.  Back in the 90s when they were giving Man Utd a run I quite hoped they would do it, however that desparation to win soon turned to arrogance.  For some reason a number of Geordies started working at the beeb around that time, including 3 in my department.  The discussion would go from banter to outright war at times, with the 'last time you won anything' usually being the final word.

    The big crowds is a bit misleading too & only increased again when Keegan started playing.  Before that they would often go below 20,000.

    The final thing for me was when one of the beeb Geordies told me that Newcastle are the Barcelona of England, going to great lengths to try & include comparisons to Catalonia & the Spanish civil war!.  That's when I knew they had lost the plot!

    I'll hold fire until after saturday though!
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    Post  SemiOldIron Thu 22 Aug 2013, 6:13 pm

    Johnny K wrote:I have swung from not minding the barcodes to finding them to be delusional & a diva club.  Back in the 90s when they were giving Man Utd a run I quite hoped they would do it, however that desparation to win soon turned to arrogance.  For some reason a number of Geordies started working at the beeb around that time, including 3 in my department.  The discussion would go from banter to outright war at times, with the 'last time you won anything' usually being the final word.

    The big crowds is a bit misleading too & only increased again when Keegan started playing.  Before that they would often go below 20,000.

    The final thing for me was when one of the beeb Geordies told me that Newcastle are the Barcelona of England, going to great lengths to try & include comparisons to Catalonia & the Spanish civil war!.  That's when I knew they had lost the plot!

    I'll hold fire until after saturday though!
    About the only similarity I can think of is that they have their own language and the rest of the country can't understand what they're saying.......Pardew and the Barcodes - a theory 3717672098 
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    Post  Charlie Ham Thu 22 Aug 2013, 7:13 pm

    Big club, should do better.

    As long as we beat them I don't care.
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    Post  alfiehammer Thu 22 Aug 2013, 7:25 pm

    Very willing to believe Joe 'kebab' kinnear was put in there to make pardew walk. I'm not so sure about pardew ever being in the frame for England, although the compensation angle sounds like an Ashley thing.

    I always quite liked Newcastle and there fans. But it's good fun watching it all go very pete tong
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    Post  Tony P Thu 22 Aug 2013, 11:06 pm

    The rumour I heard today is that Pardew owes an awful lot of money (c£1m) to one of Ashley's London casinos and the 8 year contract includes automatic deductions from his salary until it is paid off. Not sure I buy that one TBH
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    Post  Campo Thu 22 Aug 2013, 11:38 pm

    was Pards involved with the sherringham, etherington card club that was alleged to be happening on the team bus?

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